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Scaling UP! on knowledge so we don’t
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hello Scaling UP! nation my name is Trace
Blackmore and I am honored to be your
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Happy Thanksgiving can you believe that
this year has come almost to an end well
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it’s not ended yet we’ve got one month
left but definitely November is pretty
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much over and I know what you are
thinking you’re thinking I did not get
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achieved what I wanted to get achieve
this year and it’s just too late I don’t
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have any hope for getting something done
folks
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that thought is the issue so here is
what I want you to do I want you to take
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stock of all of the things that you’ve
accomplished this year and by the way
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we’re going to be talking about planning
all through December I did this last
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January I got such a great response
from people out in the Scaling UP! nation
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I want to do it again because I know we
can all be successful if we plan for
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that success and that’s exactly what we
are going to do but what I want you to
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do right now is take stock of all of the
awesome things that you have
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accomplished this year once you’ve done
that I want you to think about
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everything that you had to do in order
to get those things accomplished and
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figure out why you were able to
accomplish those things but not some of
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the others and from that you are going
to get a wealth of knowledge that will
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allow you to plan for success the
following year folks we’re going to have
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a bunch of ideas on this coming up
through December but today’s podcast is
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going to feature somebody that I know
you are very familiar with he’s my
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business coach Templeton known Tim for
just about ten years and Tim has been
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incredible in coaching me to the next
level and the exercise that I just took
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you through was something that most
likely he took me through years and
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years and years ago well Tim and I are
going to be talking about a topic that
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some of you might know about but I’m
willing to bet most of you have never
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heard of and the topic is masterminds so
folks please join me in welcoming Tim
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Fulton nation I’m so excited today my
lab partner is my business hero infamous
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templeton Tim how the heck are you good
Trace I’m doing great and I’m so pleased
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to be with you today well there is no
doubt I talked quite a bit about you on
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this show I’ve learned so many things
from you through the years and we’re
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going to be talking about something
today that you originally gave me the
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idea for and you’ve pushed me to do so I
appreciate you coming on so
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we can let the Scaling UP! nation know
about it well you’re very welcome and
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I’m excited about this particular topic
and looking forward to sharing with your
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listeners some of some of my experiences
and learnings and and helping you any
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way I can with this what Sam a couple of
weeks ago you and I met for a regular
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one-to-one and you were exploring the
idea of masterminds and I’ve been
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involved in a mastermind for quite some
time I know you’re familiar with those a
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lot of people in the Scaling UP! nation
I don’t think know what the term
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mastermind is so what the heck is a
mastermind that’s a good question I
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don’t know if I’ve ever actually seen a
definition for a mastermind group and in
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its simplest form it’s a it’s a group of
people who come together of common mind
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maybe you know common backgrounds even
for the purposes of sharing and and
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helping each other supporting each other
helping each other grow whether it’s in
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a professional setting or in a personal
setting and in a religious setting
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scholastic setting you know one of my
first experiences hearing about a
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mastermind group I remember reading Ben
Franklin’s autobiography and in that
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book he talks about how at an early age
he was in his 20s and was already a very
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successful businessperson in the
colonies printing business and he came
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up with this idea and it was a very
unique idea at the time
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of bringing together other business
owners to share their experiences both
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good and bad and he called these groups
juntos Ju and TAS and his juntos would
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get together once a week not in the
morning not in the afternoon but at
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night in a local tavern and over dinner
and I’m sure some beer and wine they
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would get together
and share their experiences as business
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owners and Franklin was known for asking
really good questions like you know what
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have you learned this week and what’s
gone well and what hasn’t gone well and
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who have you met this week of interest
in and what book have you read that has
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stimulated your your your intellect and
so he would just pose questions to his
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group questions after questions and I
think what I really liked is that there
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was no necessarily no in time for these
groups they finished when they finished
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and so Franklin talked about they would
go we into the early morning these
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groups until they had just run out of
energy I guess and then they would get
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together the next week and so at least
in this country that was the the first
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experience that we know of of of a
mastermind group and then you know today
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there are there hundreds thousands of
different examples of like groups was it
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Napoleon Hill that coined the phrase
mastermind I believe so in the book
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Think and Grow Rich which I remember
reading very early on in my career and
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I’m sure you’ve read it as well but I
believe he was the first one the where
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that the term mastermind actually showed
up I’m surprised by how many people
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haven’t read that book I read that at an
early age and when I work with people
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I’ll ask him if they’ve read them
they’ve never even heard of it so so
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nation if you’re out there and you
haven’t read that book that is
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definitely a good read I think it was
written in the 30s oh yeah yeah so and
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it’s still timeless in from very popular
yeah
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so Tim let’s get back to the question
what exactly a mastermind is so some
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might have heard of them most probably
haven’t so for somebody just hearing
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that term today what do you think they
need to know about a mastermind group
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Trace I think maybe it’s best to think
of their own life experience you know I
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think you know when I was in high school
I had a group of friends and we enjoyed
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getting together and whether it was
going to the local
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a Burger King you know once a week we’d
all go to and have lunch or dinner and
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just talk about stuff guys stuff or we’d
go to somebody’s house but it was on a
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regular basis this group of friends got
together and we shared things that I
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look back today I think you know wow you
know that was pretty pretty intimate and
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then I got into college and I joined a
fraternity and not knowing at the time
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kind of what that experience is gonna be
like but now I look back and I think
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that’s a really good example of a
mastermind group again a group of
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like-minded individuals coming together
for the purpose of leading a happier
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more fulfilling life and so it was the
college fraternity and then got out of
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college and got involved initially owned
a tire automotive business and I joined
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an industry group people who owned
similar businesses and we were able to
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share with each other both hits and
misses things at work things that didn’t
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work and while we were in some way
competitive that didn’t seem to bother
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as much and then I got involved in
another business and same thing I joined
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a group of people who owned travel
agency and people who owned travel
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agencies and again I you know I found
being able to hear from these people
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things that worked and didn’t work and
mistakes they were making mistakes I was
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making and how beneficial that was to
know that at the end of the day that I
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was human yeah and and then you know
most recently I was selected to to join
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Vistage as a chair as a facilitator and
over 16 years was fortunate enough to to
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chair a number of different Vistage
groups again groups of business owners
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and executives everything from
solopreneurs to multi-million dollar
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businesses and Beale facilitate those
groups those truly were mastermind
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groups and you know people came the
business owners and operators came to
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those groups with the idea that you know
they wanted to get better they wanted
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their businesses to get better they
wanted to learn from others they wanted
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to support each other they firmly
believed in the idea that is the more I
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give them
or I get back and I think that plays out
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a lot in mastermind groups so my I guess
my point is that you know if we look at
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our own life experience I think most of
us have had experience with mastermind
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groups we didn’t think of them at the
time as that but we’ve had that
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experience of being around maybe a small
group of people that we liked we enjoyed
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being around and we learned from and
they held us accountable for stuff
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that’s maybe we didn’t want to be held
accountable for you know they told us
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stuff that maybe made us uncomfortable
at times but at the end of the day that
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was very healthy we so I think we’ve all
been part of mastermind groups in some
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shape or form in our life experience
now you mentioned the word friends is it
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really a group of friends getting
together hanging out maybe even sharing
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a beer well that’s an interesting
question I don’t think it always starts
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off that way if I think you again when I
was young certainly it was a group of
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friends but beyond that it was usually
just a group of people who shared
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something we were in the same business
we lived in the same neighborhood so we
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had some some commonality and then as we
got began to get together formally
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informally and we began to like each
other and trust each other I think it’s
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inevitable that some level of friendship
comes out of that but I don’t think
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that’s what necessarily brings people to
a mastermind or is the original
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intention of it I think it’s a it’s a
result of a mastermind group there’s a
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proverb that comes to mind iron sharpens
iron so one person sharpens another
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that seems to be the very definition of
what I’ve experienced when I’ve been in
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groups when I’ve been in masterminds
it’s it’s interesting how when you have
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a problem and you face it on your own
you really don’t get very far you can
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only get as far as you’ll allow yourself
to go but when you engage with other
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people and you share that issue with
other people they can either give you
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feedback or ask you questions to allow
you to examine that issues and ways you
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never even thought of yeah
right one of the things I found
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particularly in my Vistage groups that
became apparent early on with even the
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most successful leaders the most
successful CEOs and that is a Trace we
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all have blind spots and so if I’m
considering a decision and an
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opportunity and I think I know what the
options are the reality is that at best
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my visibility around that issue is is
maybe fifty percent or so I only see
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half of what’s really going on with that
particular decision so then the question
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is so how do I gain a broader
perspective you know maybe I’m looking
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at hiring or firing somebody expanding
my my business accelerating our growth
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so again it at best when I look at all
the factors I may only be recognizing
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half of the data that I need to make a
really good decision so then the
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question becomes where do I get the
other half and I think that’s where a
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mastermind group comes in one through
and you said it is through the asking of
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questions that quest really good
questions that helped me broaden my
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perspective and then secondly you know
from like-minded people sharing their
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own experiences you know when they’ve
hired someone when they’ve fired
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somebody the mistakes they made the
lessons they learned so all of a sudden
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instead of having you know a very narrow
focus on a particular decision or issue
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I now have a much broader perspective
from which to make hopefully a better
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decision Jim Ron said that you are the
average of the five people you spend the
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most time with so that gives us a lot to
think about who are we spending the most
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time with yeah it causes me that I’m
gonna have to eliminate a couple no
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you’re you’re not but I love I love that
quote because I think it’s it’s so true
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when I look at my own life and I think
okay at that point in time who were the
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five or six people that I was spending
the most time with and it really does
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have I think a dramatic impact not only
our success in whatever endeavor we’re
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in but I think more importantly the
impact it has on our
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our our happiness at that point in time
the joy that we’re getting from life so
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much driven by the people that we
associate with yeah I love that quote
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the degree to which we achieve our
highest significance is directly
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proportional to the quality of the real
relationships that we have how would you
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define real relationships hmm
real relationship I think a real
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relationship is one where there is a
very high level of trust that I feel
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like whatever I’m going to share with
you is is going to be kept in confidence
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and that you will as much as possible as
humanly possible refrain from judgment
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and and Trust you know withholding
judgment wanting nothing but the best
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for each other you know rather than I
you know hoping for you know for me to
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stumble and fall you’re hoping that
somehow I’m gonna be able to elevate
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myself as a result of this relationship
and a win-win mindset that as a result
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of this relationship we’re gonna find
synergy that you know we will both be
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better off as a result I think those are
just a couple components of a good
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relationship I was reading an article
not too terribly long ago and it was
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specifically around the millennial
generation and how many of those
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individuals were confusing real
relationships with who were following
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them online and okay I’ve got hundreds
of thousands of people that are
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following me but really what does that
mean how is that significant I think it
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may have been that same article that I
that I saw that that the the number of
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significant relationships among younger
people today is less than it ever has
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been and they looked at okay so where is
that having impact in terms of our
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physical health our mental health and it
is in some case having dramatic impact
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and I don’t have an answer for that but
I I think it’s certainly something that
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gives me pause Tim there’s one thing for
sure we are definitely
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not built to do life by ourselves
there’s something that happens when two
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or more people get together and they
tackle an issue they encourage somebody
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they challenge somebody they make you
think a different way and then whatever
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that person is going through
they now have other perspectives and
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they leave knowing that they have
support with the people that are sharing
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those perspectives and something I
really find interesting is that when
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iron does sharpen iron
it’s the abrasive qualities of the two
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pieces of iron coming together that
sharpens the blade so a group of people
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getting together it doesn’t have to be
perfect
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it’s in fact I think it thrives better
when we have different points of view
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when people come from different areas of
life because now we’re able to share all
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those different perspectives to truly
put a sharpness on that blade that we
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wouldn’t get anywhere else
yeah Trace you and I have talked about
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this before and you know the benefit of
having diversity in groups like this
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mastermind groups you know how boring
would it be if there were just you know
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10 of us are the same age the same color
the same education the same background
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you know that would to me that would get
boring really quick versus a group of
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you know people from different places
different mindsets different beliefs
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different jobs and you know being able
to share those perspectives to me that’s
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where the richness in a group like this
comes from and I’ve been fortunate you
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know with different Vistage groups that
I’ve had that I’ve worked hard to try to
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bring diversity whether it’s men and
women or its its older people and
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younger people in different industries
and it’s just really interesting when
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you can put all those people into one
room and and hear from despite their
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differences the the opportunity to find
common ground and agree on things and
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even when they don’t agree to respect
those differences and you know they get
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to seek common ground for me the more
diversity in a group the
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richer the experience and people don’t
have the same experiences and they can
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add that to the richness of the
conversation I can’t help but thinking
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that people that are hearing this term
for the first time and they’re hearing
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you and I talked about this they’re
thinking is this some kind of support
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group and you and I know that
masterminds are much more than that of
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course they can include support we all
need support sometimes and we all need
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to support people at time so it’s
definitely part of the idea but it’s not
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the only idea you know as I’ve thought
about this Trace it’s it’s a it’s a
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three-legged stool for me the mastermind
group on one hand I think support is
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really important I think people want and
and need outside support when things are
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going well and when things aren’t going
so well so I think that’s a component of
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the mastermind group is providing
support I think equally important is the
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is the accountability that a mastermind
group affords to know that when I show
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21:03.5
up to your group and I have promised to
deliver on three items during the week
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21:08.3
that when I show up for our meeting I
had better have at least made progress
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21:12.1
on those three items because I’m gonna
have to report on out on them and
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21:15.9
there’s a level of expectation that I’ve
done something in each of those three
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21:22.1
areas and well at first and foremost I
have to be accountable to myself to have
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that that second ring of accountability
to have this group of people who again
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21:32.0
who only want the best for many has
gonna be questions about my progress on
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21:38.3
these things to me just just accelerates
you know my desire to achieve whatever
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I’ve set out to achieve so it’s about
support it’s about accountability and
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21:47.5
for me the third leg is it’s about
growth it’s the opportunity to get
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better at whatever I want to get better
at and being with with like-minded
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growth minded people
I remember reading the book years ago
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mindset that talks about growth mindset
versus a fixed mindset it’s not it’s not
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good or bad either one but it caused me
to
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think about I’ve got a growth mindset I
want to learn I don’t think there’s I’ll
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never get to a point I don’t think where
I feel like I’ve even begun to grasp
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22:19.9
everything there is to learn and I want
to be around people who share that same
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mindset whether it’s reading books it’s
listening to podcasts it’s it’s going
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and hearing speakers or just on a
one-on-one basis you know trying to
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22:33.5
learn as much as I can and to me that’s
such an important component of a group
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22:38.0
like this that everyone have that same
mindset so it’s about support it’s about
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accountability and it’s about growth
I love the visual of the three-legged
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22:47.1
stool we’ve used that visual on this
show before I think we’ve talked a lot
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about support up to this point but let’s
shift over to the accountability side
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22:57.9
you and I know from our conversations
that I like to swim and it’s very easy
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23:03.6
for me not to swim when I’m not meeting
somebody at the pool and 4 a.m. comes
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23:09.2
along that alarm goes off and if I’m
meeting my friend Roy at the pool I
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don’t want to let him down I am getting
my clothes on I’m driving to the pool
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23:17.7
but if Roy can’t make it that week I’m
probably hitting the snooze we’re the
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23:23.1
first people that let ourselves down and
especially when somebody else needs
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23:27.1
something when so many people are
calling for our attention we normally
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23:32.3
are the first ones to give away our own
items that we said we were going to hold
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23:37.4
ourselves accountable for for somebody
else but a group like this it helps with
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23:44.7
that it adds that other dimension it
does it it elevates the need for for
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23:49.3
having accountability again initially on
an individual basis but then being
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surrounded by people who have made a
commitment to hold me accountable for
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23:56.9
whatever I want to be held accountable
for yeah one of my most recent
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experiences from accountability is is
moe moe is my dog or and every morning I
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walk Moe and there are some days I would
wake up and I think I can’t do it I
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24:13.6
can’t I don’t want to put my shoes on I
don’t want to go outside and there was
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24:16.2
that dog looking at me
eyeball-to-eyeball
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24:19.7
expecting to go outside and I could not
let
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that poor dog down and so inevitably
we’d go outside we’d go make that walk
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24:28.9
and to me that was just a you know if it
would been left up to me I would have
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24:33.1
skipped a few days mo made sure that
never happened and to me that’s just an
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24:39.2
example of accountability wherever it
comes from you know I’m thinking of the
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24:44.5
group that you facilitated that I was in
and how many issues that I brought to
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24:50.5
the group and the group really took time
to understand what the issue was you’ve
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24:54.8
got a problem-solving track that you do
we’re not allowed to give any advice
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24:59.3
until we get all the questions off of
the table and then when the group truly
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understood what the problem was then
they started advising me and then I was
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25:09.8
asked well what are you going to do and
the group then expected that we spent
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25:14.3
all this time on this what are you going
to do so we can hear about it next month
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25:18.6
when you come back and it wasn’t easy to
do if it was easy I would have had it
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25:24.0
done before we went to the group but now
that I know I have to get it done I have
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25:29.0
clear vision because the group counseled
me and they’re expecting me to get that
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25:33.7
done you better believe I made sure I
had that done before I came to our next
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25:37.6
meeting and Trace I think it’s important
that we’re honest with your listeners
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25:42.3
this type of group is not for everyone
and for some people I think when they
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hear this I think my goodness why would
anyone subject themselves to that and
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25:52.5
there’s nothing wrong with that and but
I think for some particularly those in a
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25:57.7
leadership capacity it’s the it’s the
best thing that they could look forward
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26:03.3
to just imagine you know having 10 12
people willing to spend half an hour 45
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26:09.2
minutes hearing you talk about describe
an issue an opportunity asking you the
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26:12.7
toughest of questions and then at the
end of day saying so what are you going
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26:18.8
to do and then coming back the next week
and you’re leading off right first
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26:23.3
question is at race what did you do and
knowing that that’s that’s that’s gonna
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26:28.8
come at you on that particular day again
for some worst nightmare for some it’s
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26:33.9
the prescription for success
I think the difference is it has to be
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26:38.7
an individual that knows that they can
achieve more and they have to want to
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26:43.3
achieve more and they just need to let a
little help getting there yeah well the
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26:48.7
third leg was growth and I think growth
we can apply in so many different ways
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26:52.2
we can talk about the growth of the
group we can talk about the growth of
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26:55.9
the individual we can talk about the
growth of the individuals within the
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26:59.4
group becoming friends as you mentioned
in the beginning I don’t even know where
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27:03.4
to start with that mm-hmm
where would you start it yeah well I
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27:08.0
think you know we all can achieve a
certain amount of growth on our own
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27:13.6
right I’m gonna read books whether I’m
in a group or not I’m gonna listen to a
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27:19.2
TED talk because I enjoy listening to
TED talk but I’ve always found I’m in a
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27:25.3
book group currently and it’s really
interesting you know one is just to read
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27:29.4
a book but then to be around a group of
people who have also read that same book
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27:34.7
and are posing questions that I never
would have thought of or have gotten a
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27:38.9
different take from the book a different
take away from the book and are willing
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27:45.4
to share that to me that takes you know
my ROI from that book up three times
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27:51.0
five times and I can relate that whether
it’s a book it’s a speaker again it
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27:57.7
could be a podcast a TED talk so it’s
taking what I can do on my own and and
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28:02.8
accelerating that to a level that I
could never never achieve and again for
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28:07.6
some people not everyone loves reading
books not everyone loves listening to
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28:11.8
podcasts I can’t imagine right my
podcast but there there may be one in
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28:17.3
particular one or two and for those a
group like this might not be the best
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28:24.2
option but for those of you who do have
that growth mindset who have you know
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28:32.3
such an appetite for learning you know a
group like this again I think is the
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28:37.2
best answer can only help you get to a
higher level in terms of your growth
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28:42.0
what time I have a number of people in
my life that pushed me to the next level
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28:44.7
I don’t think I get anything done with
without people like
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28:48.1
you in my life so I can definitely
attest to how things like this had
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28:54.2
personally helped me and I have advised
other people that I work with to go out
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28:59.1
and join mastermind groups but recently
people have been coming to me and asking
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29:04.5
is there something else that I could do
members of the scaling up nation other
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29:09.1
people that I’ve been mentoring so I
decided I’m gonna start my own
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29:16.3
mastermind group in early 2020 well
congratulations I am so excited for you
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29:20.1
having you know had the opportunity to
work with you for a number of years and
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29:26.9
see your growth not only as a business
owner but as a member of a mastermind
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29:32.3
group and and now kind of ventured out
with the with your podcast and such and
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29:39.1
this seems like just a natural next step
and I I envy the people who will have
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29:44.3
the opportunity to be a part of this
group to experience what they’ll
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29:48.3
experience I’m just curious
tell me a little bit more about how this
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29:52.0
group will operate what are you envision
in terms of how this group will operate
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29:57.1
well first off I truly believe that
there is a void in our industry for a
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30:02.1
group like this and members of our
industry are looking for a place that
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30:07.1
they can join to help them in all areas
of life we’re going to be looking at
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30:12.4
current issues that they’re facing
decisions that they have to make actions
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30:16.8
that they need to take of course you
mentioned books so we’re going to come
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30:21.4
up with some books that will allow us to
navigate some of these decisions a
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30:26.6
little bit better and making sure that
the group is keeping commitments to each
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30:31.2
other so we’re getting those things that
we said were most important to each
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30:38.8
other done and then just just advice on
ideas as they come up sometimes just
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30:42.9
being able to pitch an idea to each
other you realize how good or how bad
30:42.9
30:49.4
that I idea is and it’s going to be a
lot of things to push the members to the
30:49.4
30:54.2
next level and how many members do you
anticipate will be in the group in the
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30:57.0
first group we’re going to try to limit
it to
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31:01.8
eight to ten and then as more and more
people join will have more groups that
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31:08.1
will be available hmm and what type of
commitment would someone be making by
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31:12.2
joining the group well what can they
expect in terms of just a commitment a
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31:17.2
time commitment and such sure well we
will get together on a weekly basis
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calls will be on a video media and
there’ll be about an hour long so every
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31:28.3
week we’ll also have some books that
will read probably every quarter I don’t
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31:32.2
want the books to discourage people from
joining because we’re reading so many
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31:36.8
books but at the same time – I know when
we choose the right books they can help
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31:40.3
everybody within the group and just as
you mentioned we get the different
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31:44.6
perspective of everybody that’s reading
it that we can discuss within the group
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31:51.4
also I’m going to include quarterly
one-to-ones with me so that way we can
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31:57.8
take some may be more sensitive issues
offline between us and see what we can
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32:03.5
do to help each other with that and then
we’re also going to offer a retreat for
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32:07.7
all the group members it’s important
that we all get together on that weekly
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32:10.8
conference call so we’ll know what each
other looks like we’ll definitely have
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32:16.3
dialogue but there’s just so much that
happens when the group gets together in
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32:20.9
person you like to say we get out of the
business so we can work on the business
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32:25.1
well we’re also working on ourselves so
we’re gonna have a live event that we
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32:29.7
can look forward to as well and then of
course encouraging the members to reach
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32:34.7
out and know their fellow mastermind
members so they can truly get an
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32:38.9
appreciation for everybody in the group
and I think that just helps everybody
32:38.9
32:44.0
when they come with an issue when you
know the background you know the story
32:44.0
32:49.0
of the individuals that are in the group
and how would you describe Trace that
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32:54.4
what type of people are you looking for
for this group is there a profile of
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33:00.8
sort that you’re looking for
characteristics I want people that want
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33:05.2
to go to the next level and I think
that’s my only qualifier at this point I
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think everybody knows what they’re
capable of and they also realize
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33:15.2
that if they had a little push it just
helps them get there so I’m looking for
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33:21.2
people that one want to have that push
and two are able to give that push to
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other people and maybe I’m concerned
that since these people are in my
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33:31.5
industry that there would be a maybe a
competitive issue is there something
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33:34.4
that I would that any need to worry
about that
33:34.4
33:38.8
well I think we always should worry
about things that send off that little
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33:43.7
alarm sense in our head we’ve got to be
we’ve got to be smart with the group so
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33:48.9
obviously we wouldn’t put two members
that are competing in the same space in
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33:54.2
that group but maybe we have some
national members that compete so we’ll
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33:59.1
have to make sure that we address that
we want the group to be safe so we can
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34:04.7
share information but at the same time
we’re going to challenge each other
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34:11.0
because of the experiences that we share
being in the same industry and it’s
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34:14.9
great to be able to talk with people
about problems but when you understand
34:14.9
34:18.3
the exact problem that somebody’s going
through because you face that in the
34:18.3
34:21.2
industry or you know exactly what
they’re talking about
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34:24.7
you’re not going to get that anywhere
else because who understands what water
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34:29.9
treaters go through better than another
water treater well Trace I am I’m so
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34:35.8
excited for you and I’m excited for the
individuals that choose to join the
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34:41.2
group if I’m if I was interested what
would be the next step in terms of
34:41.2
34:45.7
joining this group Tim I’m excited to
let you know that we’ve named the group
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34:52.6
rising tide and one of my favorite
quotes is from JFK a rising tide raises
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34:56.7
all boats and of course there’s a double
entendre there of course we’re in the
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35:01.2
water industry and that’s so that’s a
water metaphor so it’s the rising tide
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35:06.3
mastermind so if somebody wants to find
out more they can go to scaling-up h2o
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35:10.9
comm forward slash rising tide and that
will take you to a page that will let
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you know a little bit more about the
group great well I wish you nothing but
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35:20.5
good luck Trace as always I enjoy being
with you on the podcast
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35:24.0
look forward to hearing great things
moving forward thanks for stopping by
35:24.0
35:28.6
Tim you’re welcome
nation I can’t tell you how excited I am
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35:37.1
to bring you the rising tide mastermind
I have personally experienced how
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35:43.6
incredible it can be to share
information and ideas and ask for advice
35:43.6
35:50.2
with a trusted group of people well
folks I really feel that there is a void
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35:56.7
in our community and I feel that our
community is screaming out for this
35:56.7
36:01.9
mastermind group and as many of you and
the Scaling UP! nation already know
36:01.9
36:07.4
because you reached out to me asking for
something just like this I want to make
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36:13.0
sure I’m bringing you the tools you need
to be successful folks the rising tide
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36:20.8
mastermind will be starting in early
2020 so if you are wondering if this is
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the right place for you go to scalinguph2o.com/risingtide and take a
36:29.5
36:33.8
look at the webpage to see if that is
something that is right for you if it is
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36:39.4
you can fill out an application and
after we receive your application we can
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schedule a call to talk about exactly
what the mastermind can do for you but
36:45.2
36:49.2
then also what you can do for the
mastermind because folks let’s face it
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36:54.5
we are only as strong as the people that
are in the group so we got to make sure
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37:01.9
everybody is pulling the weight folks I
started out talking about how 2019 is
37:01.9
37:07.1
almost over well it’s not quite over yet
so figure out what you need to do to
37:07.1
37:12.8
really end this year in celebration and
we’re gonna be giving you ideas on how
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37:16.7
you can do that and how you can get a
head start on next year through the
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37:22.4
entire month of November have a great
week folks