Scaling UP! H2O

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SC up Nation one of my favorite things about the rising tide Mastermind is a
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something that I don’t do it’s something the great staff here does at the scaling up H2O podcast and that’s putting
together all of the events that are happening within the world of water so
here are a few ones that you might want to put on your calendar January 22nd
through 24th in San Diego California the clean tech forum is taking place hosted
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meeting and National issues conference that’s taking place in Washington DC January 28th through 31st and then the
2024 winter conference in Austin Texas taking place February 13th through 16th
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the original members of the scaling up nation is our friend James McDonald and
here is James with a brand new periodic water table with James hello and welcome to the periodic
water table with James where we think and learn about water chemistry drop by drop please use your week to search
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is magnesium hydroxide the molecular formula for magnesium hydroxide is mg
parentheses o close parentheses 2 that’s one magnesium atom and two oxygen
hydrogen or hydroxy groups how does this compare to sodium hydroxide and what
form is magnesium hydroxide available what color is it how do you get magnesium hydroxide into solution how
much mixing does it need what are its uses in industrial water treatment why
would one use magnesium hydroxide over sodium hydroxide lime or other similar
chemistries remember knowledge is power and taking the time to learn more about water chemistry each week will help make
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up H2O I look forward to learning more from
you well thank you James one of the things I did not mention earlier that we
are recognized for all the time is our wonderful guest we have so many industry
experts experts sharing their knowledge with us on this podcast I would say that
the knowledge base that we have in the archives of the scaling up h2l Podcast
are second to none and if you go to scaling up h2o.com and you type in just
about any water treatment topic you are going to find that we have interviewed
an industry expert and one of the things I love doing is meeting new people
within our industry in nation I know you’re going to enjoy my next
interview my lab partner today is John Chrisman senior water process engineer
with molier welcome John thank you trace I’m glad to be here this is gonna be a
lot of fun today we always have fun on the scaling up H2O podcast so so buckle
up the fun is getting ready to start well I’m curious what does a senior water process engineer do well molier is
a company that is new and we create nanobubbles in situ and nanobubbles are
a new technology and my job as a water process engineer is to find Value within
Water and Wastewater systems that nanobubbles bring so we’ve had a few
episodes on nanobubbles so I’m looking forward to deepen our knowledge of this
and we’re going to get all into that uh question I have for you and I’m sure
this is probably why a lot of your customers reach out to you is uh water
scarcity so a lot of times we really don’t realize how scarce our water
supply is because we’re very fortunate in the United States we go to the faucet the water comes out so hence we must
have plenty of water but that’s not what your clients are having to deal with so
what is a typical Cent call sound like for you well that’s a great lead in so
how I got to molier is completely about water scarcity so in my experience
working as a operator in California great place for water scarcity I landed
a job in the Central Coast with a special Sanitary District and uh
interesting thing happened we started having issues with our Waste Water treatment plan kind of out of the blue
kind of timed up with the governor declaring an emergency for the drought
and really what it came down to was water scarcity not in the way that most people think our waste water has become
a lot more concentrated and people’s habits haven’t changed even though they’re conserving water so a lot of
those habits are using soaps surfactants uh different type of
disinfecting agents quary ammonium compounds and all of these things used to have enough dilution because is the
extra water that was coming in now we’ve taken away that water we still have the same amount of waste and we have have
the same amount of chemical products so a lot of our customers call us because
they’re having random issues with loss of nitrication in their wastewater treatment process odors have increased
problems with foaming in their Anor robic digestors and it’s totally random
uh all the engineers look at it they think everything’s running fine they’re operating within their existing
parameters and they want to know what they can do about it I was just reading
about something you just mentioned and it was talking about things that the pandemic have caused and of course
during the pandemic I think we all learned how dirty we were we never washed shopping carts before the
pandemic I think we’ve gotten back to not watching them again by the way but one of the things that everybody
relearned how to do was wash their hands and I don’t think anybody ever thought
that okay we’re washing our hands more we’re using more soap we are having an
impact on our Wastewater systems yeah it’s very interesting and
in fact I Was preparing my technical paper for the upcoming wtech so I was doing a little extra research to see
what’s new what’s come about from our look back at the pandemic and one of the
interesting articles that I found uh was from Lysol great maker of disinfectants
hard surface disinfectants and they increased their production
12x and it’s remained that high since the pandemic and then another great
article says 70% of that goes to wastewater treatment plants and so
there’s been a significant increase of these chemicals into Wastewater facilities so it’s the Unseen
consequences of changing human habits Lysol makes soap they also make a
lot of disinfectants so all of that’s not being used up when we’re using it in
our household so that’s going to the Wastewater facility what’s that doing to the bug population of our Wastewater
facilities that are supposed to eat all these things that’s where it hits us the hardest so all these chemicals can be
considered amphilic compounds so they’re surfactants or Surface active agents so
they’re trying to remove oils from your skin from your clothes and use water as
a solvent to wash it away when it comes to our wastewater treatment plants those
types of chemicals want to keep contaminants in solution so things like primary clarifiers and daffs don’t
operate as efficiently but those chemicals carry on whether they’re bound to the solids to Anor robic digestion or
whether they’re uh going to activated sludge and they actually inhibit
the respiration of nitro bacteria they directly kill the bugs and and anerobic
digestors they inhibit methane formers so a lot of issues there when it comes
to treatment efficiencies you need more air on the aerobic side on the anerobic
side you’re dealing with sour digestors uh not performing the way that they should John I’m assuming the Lysol
article is dealing more with the resid itial waste how have things changed with
Industrial Waste well that’s very interesting I actually discovered this problem with disinfection chemicals and
surfactants back in 2016 because of an industrial user I was managing a
Sanitary District and running their Industrial Waste program so I was always working with industrial users to make
sure that they weren’t going to harm the municipal plant um and sure enough
chemical toilet waste is very difficult on waste wire treatment plants and we
were able to work with industrial users to change to different types of deodorant chemicals and eliminate some
of those bulk discharges but it really opened my eyes to all the other industries that are using them uh
specifically uh food and beverage industry so things have changed a lot for them because recalls on food
products uh make headlines all the time there’s not a single food producer that
wants to go through a product recall looks really bad so all of these industries use these types of
disinfecting products as clean in place procedures before and after every batch in their
process and that in itself is going to the waste water treatment plants some
IND Industries have pre-treatment and they actually find out that they kill their own bugs in the industrial
pre-treatment and and then others where they’re discharging to the municipalities they’re starting to see
the impacts of those clean and place procedures we have an adage in this
industry the solution to pollution is dilution so it sounds like we just throw
more water through this we can dilute it we can get back to normal but we started this conversation all about water
scarcity so what now yeah precisely I mean we have to do something to actually
deal with these chemicals and not just dilute them out and to your point the
problem with water scarcity and the increased concentrations of waste is
going up in industrial facilities too as they recycle more of their own water and
use less so really we have to come up with a solution and that’s how I found
the company that I’m currently working for so and we’re going to talk about that in a moment but I’m sure a lot of
people are thinking I know they’ve seen mandates with phosphorus and and what
they can release with that and before that I think we saw it with malib dates and then with zincs and probably 10’s
going to be very soon and if we go all the way back to probably the the 80s we’re we’re looking at chromates and and
all the things that that have been eliminated so surely there are going to be some sort of laws enacted that we’re
going to have to do something what do you think those laws are going to be
well I think the EPA has already identified how these types of substances are going to be covered and it’s really
when a plant does their toxicity assessment the risk assessment and
industries that are contributing to npds Holders or industries that have npds
permits are going to have to look at whole effluent toxicity and at that time
they’re going to have to do inventory of all the chemicals that are coming into the plant and making sure that they’re
not contributing so I I believe that the framework is already there it just
hasn’t looked into that aspect of it yet if you don’t mind take us through that
process so somebody has a permit to discharge they’re discharging maybe
they’re not even looking at what they’re discharging and then something happens at the plants and an investigation is
started what is that like yep so your plant can be running amazing and you do
your quarterly whole effluent toxicity and you get high numbers you get high
numbers twice now you have to do something about it and I believe it’s
called a TR a toxicity risk assessment and you basically have to go through
your entire plant and do an investigation to figure out why that
happened in a lot of plants a couple that I’ve worked for they never had the toxicity issue again it was fleeting and
they had had to do this massive study and increase their sampling frequency at
a huge expense so it’s not something easy to deal with and one of the
possible contributions could be an industrial user or somebody Upstream yeah just in case any of our
listeners don’t realize this this is serious because they’re going to say you can no longer discharge and then what do
you do exactly you have to find you know some new form of treatment taking it to
the next level and usually that has a huge Capital implication and operations
and maintenance costs that go with that so typically what we do is we try to
figure out what’s in the water that we don’t want in the water we figure out how to get it out of the water and then
it goes somewhere like a landfill or something like that how are you involved in that process so our company or our technology
actually works to partially oxidize these types of chemicals before they get
to the biological process and so we’re able to break them down to a level where
they’re no longer toxic and instead they’re actually food for the biological
process John you shared with me an article about some work that you did
with golita California can you tell us about that yes definitely I used to
actually be the operations manager at Gita before I came into my new role and
that’s where I discovered this problem and so uh I actually found in a treatment plant operator magazine that
molier was removing surfactants from Wastewater using Nano bubbles since
surfactants had been my issue for years now I had to get them on site as quickly
as I possibly could so within two months we had a full Scale Pilot uh installed
at the headworks right after screening and grit removal but before primary
clarification and we were just pulling a side stream out of a channel and recirculating it through a nanobubble
generator the results were immediate visually there wasn’t a stable foam on
the top of the basins uh both the hydraulic Equalization Basin the primary
clarifiers everything cleaned up and odors went away but I really saw
improvements to the biology much more stable operations
consistent nitrification denitrification and ultimately we were able to save about 40% on our Energy
bill through more efficient oxygen uptake from the bacteria uh more
efficient oxygen transfer and ultimately we could do more with less biomass under
aeration so it very exciting something that you know ultimately made me want to
be part of what this new technology is and bring that message to the entire
Community we have done a show before where we talked about Bubble size does
matter so maybe we do a recap here so we’ve got macro bubbles micro bubbles
Nano bubbles what’s the difference so I can quote the size of
nanobubbles nanobubbles are about 100 nanometers in diameter that’s the average but nanobubbles have a very
unique properties to them different than micro and macro bubbles when we talk
about micro and macro bubbles we’re usually talking about oxygen transfer
dissolved oxygen nanobubbles aren’t actually big players when it comes to
either of those things they really act as a chemistry that’s so unique so in
clean water nanobubbles are actually stable and so they don’t really diffuse
much gas until they ultimately burst instead they have a Charged surface
they’re hydrophobic they don’t coales together to form microbubbles and
because of those interesting properties based on their very small size they actually attract certain chemicals to
them oils surfactants qacs fats grease
and when that bubble that’s storing all this energy inside of it burst it’s
literally releasing that energy that’s breaking apart those complex compounds something I found fascinating
when I was researching this was how the bubbles affect the nitrogen load as an
operator why is that so important so as far as what we’re seeing with reduced
water flows into waste water treatment plants our waste is fundamentally changing and part of that is that the
biological treatment process is starting where we don’t don’t want it to it’s starting in the collection system it’s
starting in our primary clarifiers so we’re actually converting a lot of our
organic nitrogen into ammonia along that process so when you add nanobubbles into
that system you actually change which biology is going to start working first
and prevent a lot of that ammonia release to the system so you do see a significant drop in nitrogen loading
from the point the nanobubbles are injected to wherever they’re going to a
biological process when you were working at the plant in goita what’s something that you
know that you really feel that if everybody knew it could really make a
difference oh that’s a great question well one thing that I’ve learned from Wastewater is that knowing just one
thing doesn’t go too far that you have to learn something absolutely Ely every day but what I would say to other
operators is consider these other types of chemicals that are coming into the
treatment facility you know Engineers typically aren’t taking them into
account for the design of their treatment plans so if they’re operating their plant within the loading design
and it’s just not working sometimes it’s not your fault sometimes it’s something else that’s coming in and so there are
tests out there to test for qacs and other surfactants but really the best
thing is look for the signs and that’s really like digestor foaming stable foam
on your primaries or your EQ Basin if you come in and it smells like laundry detergent on a Sunday morning you’re
getting a lot of it I don’t know if all municipalities offer this but I live in gwet County Georgia and in our water
bill they invited us to the water plant to kind of discuss some of the issues
that they were having and what the enduser could do and we now because my
wife and I did that one I thought that was just so cool so why wouldn’t I do that uh we now have a lower tier on our
sewer anyway what we saw there was so much solid waste that they had to comb
out rake out I learned what a muffin monster was I think they did a dirty jobs with Mike Row on that once so all
of that um you know you don’t think oh if I put this dental floss down the toilet it’s not going to be a big deal
or this nonf flushable wipe but when you see when everybody does that and what
they’re having to haul off oh my goodness so you’ve experienced all this you’ve lived all of this how can you
speak a little bit into that definitely and you know my Shameless plug for Gita
Sanitary District is that they have done an amazing job the entire time that I
was there for for over nine years reaching out to the community and
bringing the community into the waste wire treatment plant to see what’s going on and so through community outreach you
can do a lot through newsletters you can inform the public G didn’t have a fog
problem at this time you know and that was due to uh community outreach
actually I wrote a article in the local paper to inform the community about
overusing Staats everybody’s switched out from you know high flow washing
machines to low flow in California yet they’re still using the same amount of
surfactant so it definitely helps to make those type of Outreach to the
community so you mentioned fat oils and greases and that’s the big problem that our county has what are some tips that
in the household we can do to help lessen that load when it gets to the water treatment plant definitely well
back when there was newspapers around it was great to mop up all your oil and grease with the newspaper and and tossed
in the trash but one thing that you can do that’s that’s really easy they sell little squeegees for your pots and pans
where you can just squeegee them out into the trash before you go ahead and wash your pots and pans a great way to
keep that out of the system and in fact it’s it’s a great thing for a small Sanitary District or an area to pass
those out at community outreach events and engage people on how they can do that same question but now for industry
oh for industry with fat soils and grease yeah that gets a little bit more challenging of course the biggest
industries that contribute are uh food service industry and it it’s all about
good capture between the the restaurant and the pipe going out and so having
properly sized interceptors to collect oil and grease and properly maintaining
them John my apologies I normally ask this at the top of the show and I was so
excited to get into our interview I totally forgot but I’m curious what got you into this industry well that’s a
great question I really love Water and Wastewater now so I I like telling this
story I actually started out just finding a job any job that I could when
I moved out of my parents house and that job was uh installing underground
utilities and so I was actually putting in sewer Mains water mains and I saw the guys working for the
city and I was like you know I know a lot about this I bet you I could do that job really great and so first job water
distribution treatment operator and getting into the treatment side on the
drinking water was great and I saw the chemistry the physical separation
processes I said I gota I gotta really invest in this and so became certified
as quickly as I could moved up as quickly as I could and the next step was
taking a Wastewater job there was a a little bit of a pay increase but more
than anything when I got involved with Wastewater I said this is where I’m going to spend the rest of my life life
and through increasing certifications studying hard going to
school getting a bachelor’s degree in Engineering Management I was able to manage a Sanitary District and now I’m
working with a water technology a startup water technology company bringing a solution you know really to
the planet with a Innovative technology so every conference that I go to I’m I’m
I’m around my people John you mentioned certifications what certifications do you hold So currently I have a
California grade five Wastewater Treatment Certification and a tcq Texas
uh Class A certification on top of that I have in California a drinking water 2
in both treatment and distribution and then beyond that I’m a
cwaa uh laboratory technologist one so some of those I’ve heard of the
the question I have is if somebody’s working in this field how do they find
out what certifications they should hold that’s a great question if you’re
in California it’s usually pretty obvious your employer knows it but really it’s great to reach out to your
local WEA they usually know what requirements there are and they usually have class
list ings for your area so they they’re a great resource for that when we were
speaking right before the interview started you were telling me you just got back from Wisconsin working with some
cheese makers tell us about that trip yeah definitely we had an interesting
installation of our technology in Wisconsin so I got to learn not only
about the cheese making process itself but a lot about Dairy Wastewater the
best way to treat it and I got to meet some really amazing Wastewater operators
and so this trip was really to highlight the work that we had done with them and
the amazing work that they were doing at their wa Wastewater Plant to both recover all the resources and all the
energy that they could but I also got to get in a room with about 70 operators
and they were all Industrial Waste all at different dairies and great
experience to find out what the needs were of the industry and share my little
bit of knowledge on this novel technology I’m trying to remember my
knowledge of cheese making because we’ve got a couple of plants so I think uh renic which is like a stomach enzyme
they they put in the water and that creates the curds in the way they discharge the way what issue does that
create Downstream so it really comes back to some of the issues that most uh
Industrial Waste has in the food and uh beverage industry is that they have to
clean like no other interesting part about walking into a a food facility
they literally have foamers to hit your boots as you walk through every door and that’s just going down a drain into the
Wastewater Plant but each day in between each batch they have to do a thorough
cleaning and so those slug load s of disinfectant and
surfactants just create all sorts of Havoc for wastewater treatment plants
and and The Operators and then the other thing with Industrial Waste versus uh
Municipal is that it’s not a constant or consistent flow and there’s usually not
great communication between the production floor and the industrial facility so when you’re expecting to get
food on a Monday for your plant and it doesn’t come that can do a lot of damage
especially when they double production on Tuesday there’s a lot of unforeseen issues that come into an industrial
facility that that really create challenges I’m willing to bet a lot of people are nervous to contact their
municipality because they think if they now put themselves on the radar that’s going to cause some sort of pain for
them later and you’re saying that’s not the case I was referring more to the production in the factory and the and
the industrial Wastewater but you’re right it actually helps a lot to have
that communication between the industrial and the municipal if you’re discharging them and you can give them a
headset opening those lines of communication just creates transparency and just really helps uh
the relationship I can only imagine if that relationship was established and there
was an issue and that company gets flagged they’re gonna say oh yeah that’s John down at the Cheese plant I know him
I I’ll give him a call we’ll take care of this instead of probably going full-blown investigation I’m guessing is
that is that possibly what could happen oh absolutely when things occur at a
municipal plant and you don’t know why and you have to go find it when you find
it eventually you’re usually not very happy about it but when there’s great communication you know you can work
together there’s there’s a lot of room within treatment plants to make adjustments for an increase in load or
figure out a way that they can bleed that to you there’s a lot of things that can be
done well scaling up Nation with technology there’s always the possibility of having technical
difficulties and this was one of those times we had an internet issue and we
were unable to finish the recording but don’t you worry the only thing that we
missed was the lightning round and I’m thinking maybe there’s some more information we can get John to come back
and share with us so we will ask him the lightning round questions at that time
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would make red water turn blue and determine what the hardness Factor was so from that point on doing any test to
my father was called Running pinks and blues he also called it Betty Crockery
but I don’t think that fit for an episode so there we go there’s the story of Pinks and blues and folks I always do
pink and Blues from what people recommend for me to do what they have
questions about what they want to hear about what they think the audience wants to know all of those pinks and blues all
come from the scaling up Nation they’re my favorite episodes to do truth be told
they are my hardest episodes to do because I’m not just interviewing
somebody that has all of the industry knowledge I now have to make sure the
knowled that I have is the latest and greatest and I’m thinking about all the
things that we talked about back on episode 336 when we were talking to swat
Sharma and she was telling us how we should deliver content how we should
write a paper and I encouraged everybody that there was a paper inside them and hopefully they could present a paper at
a conference well I shared in that episode that when we are giving
information to others We are Becoming better students ourselves because we’re trying to learn more about the topic
because we’re anticipating the questions that others are going to ask and how we’re going to explain those questions
so because of you asking me to do episodes on pinks and blues episodes I
get to do a lot of research I get to talk to a lot of people and I get to make sure that the information that I am
bringing you is the Catalyst to get you interested in learning about something
you might have already known about or maybe it’s something you knew a little bit about and now you know a little bit
more and now you’re going to go learn even more on it and it’s my hope you
take that and you share that with somebody not only by sharing the episode but also by sharing your knowledge
because that keeps our community growing that raises the bar in the industrial
water treatment community and that is our mission here on the scaling up H2O
podcast and of course we will have a brand new episode for you next Friday
that does that very thing until then have a great week [Music]
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excellence and if you’re in the same type of water treatment that I’m in I do that by maintaining my certified water
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to help I’ve answered each one of the mock exam questions letting you know the
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to set things up so you can easily find the right answer and make sure you don’t
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