Scaling UP! H2O

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hello Scaling UP! nation Trace Blackmore
here your host for Scaling UP! h2o

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Scaling UP! h2o the podcast where we’re
Scaling UP! on knowledge so you don’t

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Scaling UP! your systems everybody this is
a pinks and blues episodes and you know

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that on pinks and blues I answer the
questions that you the Scaling UP! nation

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have for me so that’s exactly what I’m
going to do today and several people

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have asked me to explain what our job is
at the most simplistic level now I’ve

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had several questions that are around
that theme so I’m just going to theme

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all those questions together now you’ve
heard me say before so I’m going to say

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it again that we might be water
treatment professionals but what it

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should say on our business cards that we
our heat transfer efficiency managers

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all the fancy things that we do all the
extra value that we bring to our

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customers is just because our job is to
make sure that the equipment that we are

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treating is working as efficiently as
possible so let’s unpack that last

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phrase for a second we are called water
treaters but the fact is we are

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equipment treaters we’re putting our
wares into the water that goes through

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the equipment that we are treating but
our job is to make sure that that

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equipment is as efficient as it possibly
can be

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now when I say efficient what does that
mean well Trace that that’s a great

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question so let me answer that efficient
or efficiency as far as water treatment

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is concerned it means that we are using
the least amount of water possible for

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that equipment to do its job and we are
using the least amount of energy

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possible for that equipment to do its
job now that translates into we

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keep the equipment as clean as we
possibly can so that way there is no

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insulation there’s nothing that’s
interfering with the transfer of heat

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from one piece of equipment to the next
now if you have ever gone to one of my

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presentations where I talk about this
topic you’ve seen me explain all the

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different pieces of equipment whether
it’s HVAC or its process or whatever the

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equipment is that we’re dealing with I
always refer to it as heat exchange so

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one piece of equipment is taking heat
out of whatever is making our process or

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the room that we’re trying to cool and
then all the other pieces of equipment

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is there to take the heat from that
previous piece of equipment and then

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finally we take it outside to something
like a cooling tower and that’s where

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it’s rejected out into the atmosphere
but again so we can go back through the

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Train so we can grab more heat to take
it through all those pieces of equipment

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so we can then reject it out into the
atmosphere so if you’re ever looking at

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equipment and you’re wondering what it
does think about it in terms of heat

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transfer and it’s been my experience
that when I look at it from heat

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transfer it almost defines itself it’s a
great technique it’s a great learning

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tool and I promise you you will find
things out about equipment that nobody

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else has figured out before you know
what my last water traders been doing it

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this way for 20 years or this equipments
been hooked up like that for 20 years

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and you’re the first person to say that
this is not hooked up properly the

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reason you can do that is because you
understand the heat transfer that’s

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going through equipment now when it
comes to heat transfer all of the heat

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transfer that we do is conductive that
means one piece touches another piece

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and the heat is transferred from one to
another and that’s how the heat travels

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through all the equipment through
all the different bodies of water in the

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system so we can eventually get it out
into the atmosphere where we don’t care

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about it when it comes to heat we’re
taking it from a place that we don’t

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want it and rejecting it to a place that
we don’t care about it now anything that

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gets on our surfaces is going to do two
things one it’s going to reduce the

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capacity of the water that’s in the
system a little small amount might not

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really amount to much but more will but
it will definitely create an insulative

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factor where now it’s like having a
blanket on our heat transfer surfaces

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our heat has to go through whatever
metal it is and it also has to go

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through whatever debris for those Jim
Luca niche fans out there that deborah’s

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whatever that deborah’s is it has to go
through that as well and that translates

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into more energy we have to do more work
because the system is not clean so if we

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do our jobs well we are able to keep the
system clean and translate savings as

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far as dollars as far as natural
resources to our customer now a lot of

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people ask me okay well what is our job
we already said it’s a heat transfer

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efficiency manager but what is our job
as a water treaty well one we have to

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understand the equipment that we are
treating even though we’re water

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treaters we are equipment traders that
happen to be treating it through water

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and if we don’t understand that
equipment we are never going to do the

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best job that we can so folks if you’re
just taking a water sample and running

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some tests out of your test kit you are
not doing the complete job you’ve got to

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know every piece of equipment that your
water that you’re treating is going

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through if you do not know that you
cannot do the proper job so please close

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your test kit do a tour of the entire
facility and make sure you know every

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piece of equipment that you are
responsible for with your water

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treatment program
and if you haven’t done this in a while

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but you have done it you probably want
to do it again I can’t tell you how many

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times that a customer has identified
that there is a problem in the system

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and it’s because somebody tapped into
the system and they never told us about

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it and it was in an area of the building
that we would have never found it so

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always keep that dialogue going so your
customer immediately thinks about you

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when it comes to anything that happens
with the systems that you are treating I

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don’t know why that is hey we’re getting
ready to tap into the system trace is

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our water treater trace has done a great
job we need to make sure that we include

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trace on this decision it just doesn’t
happen automatically I’m not sure why I

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don’t think it’s offensive and I don’t
take offense to it but we’ve got to make

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sure we’re continuously asking our
customers what has changed since the

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last time I was here and that includes
have you added any additional equipment

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folks I’ve arrived at an account we’re a
brand new cooling tower was right in

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front of me and I had no idea they were
getting rid of the old one now I like to

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think that we do a great job of talking
with our customers and they understand

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what an ally they have in us and how we
try to be the intermediary between the

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mechanical contractor and the building
owner or the facility owner so we can

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make sure that both parties are talking
in a way that everybody can understand I

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think we do that as good as anybody else
I want to say we probably do it better

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but we really work hard at that and even
with that being said we still run into

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these issues so always talk about
equipment to your customers and make

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sure that if you have new equipment
coming that they tell you about it

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always ask the question because that’s
how you’re going to find out well when

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you’re treating whatever the equipment
is that you have in front of you you’re

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always treating for four key issues as a
water treat or is the best

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heat transfer medium that is out there
so because of that we have to accept the

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issues that come when we use water as a
heat transfer medium now if we were to

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look at the hydrologic cycle we would
learn that only pure water evaporates

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leaving at solids behind and then
eventually clouds form when waters

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evaporated those clouds when they get
heavy enough they condense and they form

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rain from that point on water is no
longer water water is water and stuff

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water is the universal solvent so water
against anything else will lose water

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will dissolve it given enough time so as
its falling down from the clouds it’s

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starting to dissolve all of the gases it
comes in contact with oxygen carbon

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dioxide sulfur dioxide you name it it is
dissolving it and then it hits the

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ground when it hits the ground it starts
dissolving everything that’s on the

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ground and as it percolates down through
the ground it’s dissolving even more the

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longer it percolates down the more
minerals it’s starting to dissolve and

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it’s also carrying dirt and debris along
with it so all of that is mixed in with

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the water so we were to look at the four
areas that we have to address if we’re

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using water as a heat transfer medium
it’s because of how water dissolves and

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picks up everything so let’s examine
some of the minerals that water

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dissolves silica calcium magnesium
chloride iron all these other things

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that we probably are testing for water
is dissolving and we have to know all

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the things that are in the water that
are going to create a problem for us

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because we’ve got to make sure that they
stay soluble within the system if they

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start to precipitate out that’s what
forms scale now if we look at all the

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things that the water hasn’t had a
chance to dissolve yet and they’re just

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kind of running along
for a ride with the water that’s all our

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dirt and debris again the gym looka
niche fans out there the Deborah’s so

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that’s all the dirt and Deborah’s that’s
coming in with the system including

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microbial so we’ve got three of the four
legs right there now water is the

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universal solvent so there’s nothing we
can do to stop water’s potential to

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corrode but we can’t slow that down and
that’s what we do is water treaters but

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when it has all those dissolved gases in
it that is going to enhance water’s

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ability to corrode so those are the four
things that US water treatment folk have

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to deal with we have to deal with
corrosion we have to deal with scaling

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we have to deal with microbial fouling
and then we have to deal with the dirt

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and debris if we can do all four of
those things we are doing our job well

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we are making sure that the system is
running efficiently that means that the

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system is clean there’s no extra
particulate in the system there’s no

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extra corrosion in the system all those
things that will get in the way of us

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having good clean efficient heat
transfer from one body to the next

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that’s our job and that’s what we do
well I hope that answers the question

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how can I explain what we do as a water
treat are in the most simplest terms so

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people see the value in us water
treaters another question that I get is

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how do you explain what it is that we do
to a customer so they see the value well

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folks exactly what we just did make sure
your customer understands that but make

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sure that you talk to them in terms of
money I promise you regardless of any

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affiliation that anybody has with a
political party an action movement what

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they wear on Tuesday every single person
regardless of anything they

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get money so when you can convert what
you do into money to them I promise you

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that you are going to make a connection
with them so with that in mind let’s

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talk about money now I’m willing to bet
you’ve never had a customer come up to

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you and say hey you’re doing a great job
can you please increase the amount that

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you’re charging us now if you’ve had
that conversation my hat is off to you

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but I’ve got to tell you
twenty-something years in this business

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I have never had a conversation like
that so I want to paint a picture of

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what a true water treatment program is
worth to the people that we are working

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for I’m talking about our customers and
if they don’t understand this value

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they’re not going to understand the
value that we give to them each and

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every day so if you have a piece of
scale and for argument’s sake we’re

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going to say it’s calcium carbonate
scale and it’s the thickness of a sheet

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of paper so wafer thin wafer thin sir so
it’s very very small and just the

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thickness of a sheet of paper and now
what we are going to realize is that

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very tiny coating of scale when it comes
to efficiency is going to reduce our

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efficiency by 10% that means that
whatever our bill is and let’s talk

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about a chiller and I don’t know if you
know but I’m gonna tell you so now you

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do a chiller is responsible in a
commercial office building for the most

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consumption of electricity in that
building so now we’re talking about

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increasing the amount of energy it takes
to run the most expensive piece of

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equipment in that building so I’m gonna
take you through some math that we’re

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going to do I apologize you know
speaking of that so many people asked me

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hey can you start doing math on your
podcast I’ve seen you do it at AWT

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and your great teacher and I got a lot
out of it but I’d really love for you to

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do it on the podcast folks I just don’t
know what that looks like if I start

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shouting out numbers to you and you’re
driving around going to your next

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account I’m just worried what’s gonna
happen behind that steering wheel so I’m

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not saying no I just don’t know how to
do it but I want to go ahead and try on

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this so you know now as a Scaling UP!
Nation member that the thickness of a

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sheet of paper of scale is going to
increase that chiller usage by 10% isn’t

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that amazing that small small amount of
scale is going to increase the usage of

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energy by 10 percent so now let’s take
an average chiller so we have a 500 ton

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chiller running 24 hours a day 365 days
a week and let’s say it’s using point

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six kilowatts per ton and this customer
is paying seven cents per kilowatt if we

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do the math just left to right and
multiply all that out we find that that

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customer is paying a hundred and eighty
four thousand dollars a year to operate

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that chiller when it’s clean well now we
don’t have a clean chiller we have a

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filed chiller the thickness of a sheet
of paper so now it’s gonna cost them an

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additional ten percent well ten percent
of a hundred and eighty four thousand is

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eighteen thousand four hundred now one
of the great privileges I have was

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serving with so many other water
treaters in the association of Water

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Technologies is I know that in
California a certain account might go

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for X we’re in Florida it might go for Y
and then in Atlanta because I work here

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it goes for Z so if I look at all the
different waters that are around the

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United States I can say safely that a
water treatment program for that 500-ton

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chiller that we just did the math for
will range somewhere between six

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thousand and twelve thousand
now with that said they’re spending an

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extra eighteen thousand four hundred so
if we go on the top tier of how much a

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water treatment program like that would
cost let’s say twelve thousand that is

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still a far cry from that eighteen
thousand four hundred how many of your

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customers realize this how many of you
out there in the nation realize this our

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job when we do it properly is a drop in
the proverbial bucket when it comes to

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how much energy we can save our customer
we have to start telling this story

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because then we’re going to be able to
work with that customer better and

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they’re going to look less at the
top-line meaning the invoice that you’re

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sending them and look more below the
line at the amount they’re paying for

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their utilities but they’re not going to
get there on their own we have to help

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them with that well in addition to
saving all that money they’re getting

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all the things that we do in order to be
a heat transfer efficiency manager

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they’re getting corrosion control
they’re getting biological control

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they’re getting scale control they’re
getting overall system cleanliness they

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are getting an advocate that probably
understands their system better than any

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other vendor that they are working with
and they’re also getting somebody that

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can talk with other vendors and then
explain to the customer how that affects

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the actual system folks if you are not
acting as an advocate for your customer

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and making sure that they understand all
the equipment that they own through you

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because I promise you water traders have
a perspective that other vendors don’t

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and when we can help the customer
understand what the equipment is that

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they own and how it works it helps them
make better decisions so they can do

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better things with that system and foe
we also have a way of speaking with the

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vendor the mechanical contractor the
people in sawing the equipment in a way

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that allows us to speak to them and they
just get it they understand it so I

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don’t know why but water treaters are
just a great intermediate between the

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customer and all the other vendors that
are working on these systems that we’re

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responsible for so everybody’s playing
well together we’re kind of the

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translators between the equipment the
equipment owner and the people doing the

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work on the equipment so that means we
can help them schedule when maintenance

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needs to be done when cleanings need to
be done and why it’s better to do them

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at certain times of year or certain
times of day a while ago I was working

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with a customer and they were just
simply taking their chiller offline and

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cleaning them at the will of the
mechanical company and they didn’t have

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anything bad in mind with this they just
didn’t think it all the way through and

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whenever they were done they put the
chiller back online well folks I live in

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Atlanta and if you don’t know I’m gonna
let you in on a little secret

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it gets hot here it gets really hot here
at about a hundred percent humidity so

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we are definitely using the chillers
during the summertime well that’s when

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this chiller was cleaned and it was put
online at about 3 p.m. in the middle of

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August so what had happened was because
that chiller was ramping up because

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there was a bigger heat load in that
building that was the most expensive

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time for that customer to buy
electricity from the local power company

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so what that did that actually charged
them a lot more money for electricity on

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their bill but because there was so much
energy usage during that peak time it

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actually rolled them over to a higher
tier of buying electricity now that

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lasts for one year they suffered that
for an entire year and it wasn’t until

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after a year passed that they were able
to

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reset that and then buy all of their
electricity at a lower tier that was

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only because that chiller shutdown was
not planned properly and they paid the

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side effects of that for one year
folks us as water treaters us as heat

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transfer efficiency managers we think in
those terms now if we were invited in on

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that conversation we could have told
them about that and they wouldn’t have

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had to pay that higher bill that lasted
an entire year one nation I cannot

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imagine a better job out there I love my
job as a water treat our have never been

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23:03.1

bored a day in my life I see things that
I do not have the right to see you name

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the piece of equipment I have probably
walked into that facility to see how

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it’s made I absolutely love water
treatment now my father got me involved

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in water treatment I had no idea what a
gift my father was bringing me into and

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I hope that all the water treaters that
are hearing my voice right now you feel

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the exact same way about your job if you
do your job correctly and you’re always

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learning more than you know right now I
promise you you are going to feel the

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exact same way as I do I sure like
bringing the show to you I love you when

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I get questions from the audience
because I know I am laser focused on

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exactly what you want me to talk about
but folks as you know you’ve heard the

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24:00.5

plea before I am going to run out of
material sooner or later and then you

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are just going to listen to dead air and
maybe some people out there would prefer

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that more I’m willing to bet that most
of you would not I hope most of you

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would not so I want you to help me help
you and let me know what questions you

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have I just used about six questions in
this episode that I bunched all up

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together so now I’ve got
to replenish the pot that those

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questions came from so please help me do
that you might say trace how do I help

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you do that and other people are saying
well he says it every week how can you

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not know that well I’m gonna say it
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ideas coming keep those questions coming
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interview I would love to know who it is
the last thing I’m gonna leave you with

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is so many of us spend so many hours in
our car we’re listening to Scaling UP!

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but you can only binge so much Scaling UP! before you catch up and I know a lot

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of you out there will listen to episodes
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but another way that you can continue to
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you’re driving to your next account is
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free book and a free month from me to
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can see how I read the majority of the
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amount of information on this podcast
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down but I am driving so much I don’t
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audible allows me to do that on my terms
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but you can try it out for free by going
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audible nation as you know there are
only so many opportunities for us water

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26:37.1

treatment folk to get together and we
have

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26:41.5

one of those golden opportunities coming
up it’s going to be September 11th

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through 14th and that’s going to be in
Palm Springs California well what is it

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26:51.2

that I’m talking about what’s going to
be September 11th through 14th in Palm

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26:55.4

Springs California well I’m glad you
asked it’s the association of Water

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27:01.1

Technologies annual convention and Expo
folks I’m gonna be there I’m actually

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going to be moderating a panel of young
professionals we did this last year we

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had a great time with it we taught a
bunch of people how to work better with

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27:19.4

multi generations and we’re going to do
it again so folks those things sell out

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so if you have not gotten your tickets
for the convention coming up in

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27:30.1

September you want to go ahead and do
that and the thing that goes even

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quicker are the hotel rooms folks if you
want to stay at the host hotel I

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27:41.2

recommend you make those reservations
sooner rather than later the first year

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27:45.3

that I was off the board of the
Association of Water Technologies I was

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27:50.8

so used to the wonderful staff there
making my reservations I actually forgot

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27:55.1

to make my reservations by the time I
realized I forgot to make my

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28:01.5

reservations I called the hotel and they
didn’t have a single room left folks

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28:06.9

when I tell you the hotel sells out the
hotel sells out I know that from

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firsthand experience so I went to the
hotel across the street actually was a

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little further down than that and you’re
thinking big deal well folks it is a big

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deal because when you come to convention
such as this you want to be right in the

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middle of the action you don’t want to
have to worry about going away from the

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venue to go back to your room or take
care of whatever you have to take care

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28:32.4

of you want it to be right there so
you’re always in the middle of the

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28:37.1

action you don’t want to miss anything
there are so many great papers that

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people are going to present to you there
is so much that you can learn from the

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28:46.9

water treatment vendors that are going
to be exhibiting their folks you’re

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going to be able to see every single one
of your

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vendors at one location one trip under
one roof and you can have so many

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29:01.5

business meetings with all of your
vendors even meet new ones and come up

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29:07.9

with ideas that when you come back to
your territory you will be able to just

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29:13.0

light it on fire because you now have a
new idea that you didn’t have before but

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folks the magic the magic that I truly
believe that you get to come into

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something like this is you meet people
that understand what it is that you do

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29:31.4

you’re gonna meet people that can help
you when you run in to problems folks I

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29:38.1

can’t tell you how invaluable it is when
I see something and maybe I know exactly

29:38.1

29:44.1

how to fix it but then maybe I want a
second opinion on it I have a deep deep

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29:50.0

bench of people that I can call and I
can ask what do you think about this

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29:55.1

issue have you ever seen it before if
this was your issue how would you solve

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it and that helps me so much I can learn
from their trials and tribulations what

30:02.2

30:07.3

worked what didn’t work and then when I
go to present something to that customer

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30:13.1

I know it is the perfect solution well
folks if you don’t have friends in this

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industry it’s not to say you can’t have
that conversation but it’s going to be a

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30:24.7

lot more difficult so when you go to any
training event any Expo it’s important

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for you to talk to the people that are
there so you can get to know more people

30:30.4

30:36.2

and build your network now I was very
fortunate where I decided at a young age

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30:41.7

that I wanted to volunteer in an
association that dealt directly with the

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30:46.1

type of water treatment that I am
responsible for and of course that was

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30:50.4

the Association of Water Technologies
I’m still very active in the Association

30:50.4

30:53.4

of Water Technologies but I haven’t been
on the board of directors for a couple

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31:00.1

of years because I’ve been involved in
the AWT for 13 years now that’s amazing

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31:05.7

for me to think about but
thirteen years of me giving myself to

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that organization well folks the
organization also gave back because of

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the friendships that I was able to get
and all of the knowledge that comes with

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31:21.1

those friendships well something like
that doesn’t start by just attending one

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31:27.5

meeting that was a combination over many
years of me giving to that organization

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31:33.7

and then people identifying me as a
giver and they wanted to give things to

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31:39.6

me as well so here’s the deal it all
starts with meeting people it all starts

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31:46.7

with you wanting to improve the industry
that you are in folks you all know it

31:46.7

31:52.2

you’ve all heard it before
I truly believe in JFK’s quote a rising

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tide raises all boats why else would I
be doing this podcast so when you do

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32:07.7

whatever it is that you do to give back
to this industry you are raising the

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32:15.4

tide that every other water treater gets
the benefit from imagine if we all put a

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little bit of effort into raising that
tide how awesome this industry is folks

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32:26.0

this is already an awesome industry but
just imagine what it could be if we all

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32:33.1

carry just a little bit of the load well
I hope that was inspiring for you I hope

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you look for ways to rise that tide and
I sure hope that you tune back next week

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