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For those long-time listeners, you know that I love learning and talking about Leadership, and I love bringing guests on the podcast who can share their leadership knowledge and expertise with you, which is why I couldn’t wait to share this interview with you!

My guest today is Drew Dudley, a Wall Street Journal best-selling author, educator, and speaker. A mentor of mine introduced me Drew’s TEDx Talk “Leading with Lollipops” a few years ago, and since then I have shared Drew’s Talk with dozens of people. If you haven’t watched it yet, I encourage you to do it now. We have a link to Drew’s TEDx Talk below.

Drew Dudley is someone who has a refreshing perspective on leadership and he is an excellent storyteller. The first time I met him, I couldn’t stop smiling, and hopefully by the end of this episode you’ll feel empowered to be an extraordinarily intentional leader.

Bottom line: Drew Dudley is going to inspire you to become a new kind of leader. 

Your roadside friend, as you travel from client to client. 




Thanking the best audience in Water Treatment, the Scaling UP! Nation and upcoming events [01:54]

Introducing Wall Street Journal best-selling author and TEDx Speaker, Drew Dudley [13:45]

Tedx Talk experience and shaping your story [17:42]

The origin of the “Lollipop Moment” [21:36]

Creating change with Lollipop Moments  [28:08]

Leadership as conscious acts [33:24]

Becoming intentional with the language you choose to use [37:20]

Getting Leadership right in business [40:40]

What is Drew’s book “This is Day One: A Practical Guide To Leadership The Matters” about? [47:04]

Catch Drew Dudley in-person at the AWT Conference in Vancouver! [50:06]

Lightning round questions [52:47]

Thinking On Water With James [1:05:25]


Thinking On Water With James:

In this week’s episode, we’re thinking about the shelf life of industrial-strength sodium hypochlorite or bleach. How long will a drum of sodium hypochlorite last? What factors can impact its shelf life? Do heat and light have an impact?  Will contact with certain metals have an impact? What is chemically happening to the sodium hypochlorite to reduce its shelf life? What are the possible consequences of feeding it after it is beyond its shelf life? How does understanding the shelf life of sodium hypochlorite impact the volume ordered when usage rate is considered? Take this week to think about the shelf life of industrial-strength sodium hypochlorite and what it may mean to you. 



“When leadership is all about power, influence, and prestige it doesn’t connect with young people.” – Drew Dudley

“One of the challenges isn’t whether we have enough schools teaching Leadership, it’s how they’re teaching Leadership, especifically, what examples they are using.” – Drew Dudley

“The key to any talk, TED or otherwise, is ‘what’s the story’?” – Drew Dudley

“The Lollipop Moment is about a moment in life where somebody let you know that you had a bigger impact than you are aware.” – Drew Dudley

“Useful compelling ideas are inherently motivating.” – Drew Dudley

“Every great story begins with an act of stupidity” – Drew Dudley

“It’s not the goals you’ve set, it’s not the goals you reached; and it’s how you behaved in pursuit of these goals.” – Drew Dudley

“Moments of personal impact are the only source of power that are accessible to everyone on earth.”  – Drew Dudley

“Leadership is not about random acts, it’s about conscious acts.” – Drew Dudley

“Never allow someone who you know is a person of worth to diminish themselves in front of you.” – Drew Dudley

“If you present how you feel about something, it can’t be argued with.” – Drew Dudley

“Research shows that the more people in an organization that understand their own personal values and can live them everyday, the better the organization is going to be.” – Drew Dudley

“In Leadership, you never steal anything, you benchmark a good practice.” – Drew Dudley

“Please tell your story, share it with people. Vulnerability leads to extraordinary connections.” – Drew Dudley

“As a speaker, what you’ve been given is the gift of other people’s attention and the opportunity to change minds.” – Drew Dudley

“When we put ideas out in the world, we have no idea where they’re gonna land.” – Drew Dudley


Connect with Drew Dudley:

TEDx Toronto – Drew Dudley “Leading with Lollipops”

Phone: 1-855-685-3253



LinkedIn: in/dayonedrew

Twitter: @DayOneDrew

Instagram: @dayonedrew

Facebook: @DayOneDrew

Book: This is Day One by Drew Dudley


Links Mentioned:

TEDx Toronto – Drew Dudley “Leading with Lollipops”

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AWT (Association of Water Technologies)

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2022 Utility Leadership Conference – July 24 to 27, 2022 in Seattle, Washington 

Smart Water Summit – August 29 to 31, 2022 in San Antonio, Texas 

Association of Water Technologies’ 2022 Annual Convention and Exposition – September 21 to 24, 2022 in Vancouver, Canada

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Books Mentioned:

This is Day One: A Practical Guide To Leadership The Matters by Drew Dudley 

Start With Why by Simon Sinek

Dare to Lead by Brené Brown 

Atlas of the Heart: Mapping Meaningful Connection and the Language of Human Experience by Brené Brown 

Daring Greatly: How the Courage to Be Vulnerable Transforms the Way We Live, Love, Parent, and Lead by Brené Brown 

The Gifts of Imperfection by Brené Brown 

Rising Strong: How the Ability to Reset Transforms the Way We Live, Love, Parent, and Lead by Brené Brown 

Braving the Wilderness: The Quest for True Belonging and the Courage to Stand Alone by Brené Brown 

I Thought It Was Just Me (But it isn’t): Telling the Truth About Perfectionism, Inadequacy, and Power by Brené Brown 

Good to Great: Why Some Companies Make the Leap and Others Don’t by Jim Collins

Built to Last: Successful Habits of Visionary Companies by Jim Collins

The Energy Bus: 10 Rules to Fuel Your Life, Work, and Team with Positive Energy by Jon Gordon

The Five Dysfunctions of a Team: A Leadership Fable by Patrick Lencioni

Silos, Politics and Turf Wars by Patrick Lencioni

Man’s Search for Meaning by Viktor Frankl

Drive: The Surprising Truth About What Motivates Us by Daniel H. Pink

A Whole New Mind: Why Right-Brainers Will Rule the Future by Daniel H. Pink

Linchpin: Are You Indispensable? By Seth Godin

Be So Good They Can’t Ignore You by Cal Newport

Leadership, Reinvented by Hamza Khan

Let’s Pretend This Never Happened: A Mostly True Memoir by Jenny Lawson

Everything is Horrible and Wonderful by Stephanie Wittels Wachs

The Leadership Test: Will You Pass? by Timothy R. Clark

Encouraging The Heart Workbook by Barry Posner and James M. Kouzes

Gettysburg Address – Abraham Lincoln


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