046 The One About Phosphate Testing

046 The One About Phosphate Testing

Episode 46: Show Notes

If you have ever listened to my show, you know I am totally dependent on your suggestions on what I should be talking about. Today’s show is straight from the “Scaling UP! Mailbag!”  You ask for it, so here it is… Phosphate…  (Tap…Tap) Is this thing on?

Yes, I said Phosphate. Believe it or not, questions around phosphate top my list of the most asked questions from the Scaling UP! Nation! So, who am I to argue.   Phosphate it is…

I have also taken this opportunity to play “Mythbuster” Scaling UP! Style. A few months ago, several blogs and listservs started talking about using a particular device used for digestion in phosphate testing. The device is called the SteriPen and it was developed for outdoor lovers to sterilize their drinking water. Many water treaters have found that it could be used as the ultra violet source in the phosphate digestion process (azole too.) The aforementioned post alluded that the SteriPens would not work for this purpose. Join me as I take the Nation! though how I explored these questions myself.

You will hear how I take my own advice of, “Trust but verify” (I think Ronald Reagan said that) when you get water treatment opinions.  I also get a little help from my friends (John Lennon said this one) by interviewing people that have been using the SteriPen and who developed the SteriPen.

Key Points From This Episode:

  • Viewer Requested Show [0:00:35]  
  • What Phosphate is? [0:01:00]  
  • AWT Annual Convention [0:01:30]  
  • Industrial Water Week [0:02:28]
  • Scaling Up! Nation Testimonials [0:04:27]
  • What are the different types of Phosphate? [0:07:15]  
  • Building blocks of scale [0:11:26]
  • Testing Phosphate [0:12:34]  
  • Kinds of tests for Phosphate [0:06:22] 
  • SteriPen [0:22:23]
  • Techniques on testing [0:29:37]  
  • Repeatability [0:33:05]  
  • How SteriPen works? [0:38:01]   
  • Batteries works with SteriPen [0:42:15]  
  • Difference on SteriPens versions? [0:35:53] 
  • And a lot more!


Take away on today’s show: Keep your ears open, read everything you can about what you do on a regular basis. @traceblackmore #thetablegroup #scalinguph2o #scalingup #scalinguppodcast #phosphatetesting #theoneaboutphosphatetesting

Trust me, every water treater out there has an opinion about how you do it, what you use. @traceblackmore #thetablegroup #scalinguph2o #scalingup #scalinguppodcast #phosphatetesting #theoneaboutphosphatetesting #steripen

It’s great to hear what those opinions are but that’s all they are to you. @traceblackmore #thetablegroup #scalinguph2o #scalingup #scalinguppodcast  #phosphatetesting #theoneaboutphosphatetesting #steripen

Do something that allows you to believe in what you are doing. @traceblackmore #thetablegroup #scalinguph2o #scalingup #scalinguppodcast  #phosphatetesting #theoneaboutphosphatetesting #steripen

Improvements on Steri Pen is a huge time saver. @traceblackmore #thetablegroup #scalinguph2o #scalingup #scalinguppodcast  #phosphatetesting #theoneaboutphosphatetesting #steripen

Episode 46 Tip: Make sure you bring extra batteries when you do Steri Pen tests. @traceblackmore #thetablegroup #scalinguph2o #scalingup #scalinguppodcast  #phosphatetesting #theoneaboutphosphatetesting #steripen

Upcoming events: AWT Convention in Orlando this coming Sept. 26-29, 2018. @traceblackmore #thetablegroup #scalinguph2o #scalingup #scalinguppodcast  #phosphatetesting #theoneaboutphosphatetesting #awtconvention2018 #watertreatment

Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode:

Upcoming events: 

AWT annual Convention September 26 –29 in Orlando Fl


Industrial Water Week October 1-5, 2018 


Industrial Water Week: Your Holiday


Scaling UP! Meet UP! at the AWT convention

  • 10:00 AM Thursday, immediately following the Keynote speaker, meetup in chillers lounge.

Places to see Trace at the AWT convention

  • 9:00 AM – 10:30 AM – Friday, Workshop about Legionella from the water treaters prospective : Russel Baskin of Tower Water
  • 3:30 PM -4:30 PM – Friday, Panel Discussion: Understanding Young Professionals
  • 8:00 AM – 9:30 AM – Saturday, Filming Amines panel (Nathan Hardy)
  • Trace will be recording at the convention, so be sure to come talk to him!

Audible: https://scalinguph2o.com/audible

The unboxing of everything you need to use the SteriPen in your Phosphonate and Azole testing: https://scalinguph2o.com/penvideo 

Here is the link to the video I made to help you augment your testing procedures for Phosphonate and Azole testing:  https://scalinguph2o.com/pentest 

Here are the affiliate links to what I use for testing:

Steri Pen: https://scalinguph2o.com/steripen

Energizer Ultimate Lithium AA Batteries: https://scalinguph2o.com/batteries

Eowpower 30pcs 50ml Plastic Vial Storage Container: https://scalinguph2o.com/vial

Additional resources: 

Hach UV Lamp Kit, 115V:  https://scalinguph2o.com/lampkit

Taylor Technologies Test Procedures:  Phosphonate, Azole


Nation!  I misspoke about LSI and RSI on this show.  As I think you know, I am an RSI guy (so that’s how I think.)  Here is the breakdown of Ranges for LSI, RSI and PSI:

  • LSI Range: -3.0 – 3.0
    • >0=Scaling
    • <0=Non-Scaling
  • RSI Range: 1 – 12
    • <6=Scaling
    • >6=Non-Scaling
  • PSI Range: 1 – 12
      • <6=Scaling
      • >6=Non-Scaling

For more information on this, check out the show we did on it by clicking here.


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