Scaling UP! H2O

222 The One Where Janet Stout Shares Key Industry Updates

Today is a special treat because today I have a friend and trusted colleague, Janet E. Stout PhD, president of Special Pathogens Laboratory and research associate professor at the University of Pittsburgh Swanson School of Engineering in the Department of Civil and Environmental Engineering.

Janet E. Stout PhD, Legionella Awareness MonthAn infectious disease microbiologist, Dr. Stout is recognized worldwide for seminal discoveries and pioneering research in Legionella. Her expertise includes prevention and control strategies for Legionnaires’ disease in building water systems.

Dr. Stout’s more than thirty years of research is published in peer-reviewed medical and scientific journals. She also has authored textbook chapters on Legionella and Legionnaires’ disease, including the Legionella chapter in the APIC Text.

An advocate for prevention, Dr. Stout assisted in developing the first Legionella prevention guideline (1993) in the United States, which continues to serve as a model for national and global health agencies and organizations. Additionally, she serves on the ASHRAE Legionella standard committee for Legionella Guideline 12 and the SPC 188 committee for ANSI/ASHRAE Standard 188-2015 Legionellosis: Risk Management for Building Water Systems, the first U.S. standard for Legionella risk management.

She is the first instructor of the ASSE 12080 Legionella water Safety and Management Specialist Certification training, and TODAY she has agreed to come on the show and share some key updates that our entire industry should be aware of.

Bottom line: Dr. Janet E. Stout is on a mission to end Legionnaires’ disease by using science and education to prevent future outbreaks.

 Your roadside friend, as you travel from client to client. 




James’ Challenge: “Perform condensate survey throughout a facility.”  [2:02]

Re-introducing my friend and trusted colleague, Legionella Expert, the accomplished Dr. Janet E. Stout [6:00]

Why join a peer to peer groups for business solutions and professional growth [13:30]

ASHRAE 188 updates  [18:40] 

Legislation regulation for Legionella updates [23:22]

12080 Certification [29:55]

CDC updates [31:20]

Understanding “Percent Positivity” [34:30]

The Joint Commission updates [36:37]

What does a CWT need to know? [40:20]

Staying on top of industry changes [43:15]

Standard 514 [45:05]

Talking to our clients about changes [47:00]

How to stay in the know about local and state changes? [50:33]

Lightning round questions [54:00]



“I’m on a mission to end Legionnaires’ disease.” – Dr. Janet E. Stout

“It frustrates me that someone has to die in order for changes to be made.” – Dr. Janet E. Stout

“Change is coming. Some through standards and guidance, and some by regulatory authorities and joint commission.” – Dr. Janet E. Stout

“We need to raise the bar so that everybody is at the same level of basic understanding of Legionella and Legionnaires disease water management.” – Dr. Janet E. Stout

“We advance because we say to ourselves ‘There are things we don’t know’ and we seek out the knowledge for those that do and thereby get better at our jobs.” – Dr. Janet E. Stout

“A water treatment professional needs to be an educator of their client.”  – Dr. Janet E. Stout


Connect with Janet Stout PhD:

Phone: 412.281.5335




Links Mentioned:

Episode 121 with Dr. Janet Stout

Standard 188-2021 — Legionellosis: Risk Management for Building Water Systems (ANSI Approved)

Special Pathogens Laboratory – Education 

Puzzled By Legionella Wednesday webinar series

The Rising Tide Mastermind

Submit a Show Idea

AWT (Association of Water Technologies)



The Hang Networking Event– @6pm 11.11.21

Michael Warady’s Business Webinar -@11am 10.29.21

Smart Water Utilities, Europe (Netherlands) -1.26.22-1.27.22


Books Mentioned:

Puzzled By Legionella – Janet E Stout PhD

From Good To Great – Jim Collins 

Traction – Gino Wickman 


Water Treatment education

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